How To Install A Hayward Skimmer Weir

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Have Hayward P1084 skimmers and am having problem with the "weirs" (the little doors). (These were installed by a pool renovator who replaced my original Anthony Sylvan "round" skimmers as part of putting seamless physical to the edge of the pool and replacing original coping; that led to tiles falling off and having A&S redoing tiles around puddle. Past best guess is for some reason the tile guy took the weirs out of the skimmers and didn't put back properly. That is just a guess).

The trouble is both weirs are loose and end up floating in the skimmer or the pool. I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get them back in place! On one skimmer, a pin on the skimmer is really snapped off and the other weir the niggling "sleeve" that wraps effectually the pin is cleaved. The guy that opens my puddle cannot effigy how to get the doors in; at the local pool store I bought a new weir for the broken one and she said you somehow have to "maneuver them in to identify". From what I can meet the only way to connect them properly is from the outside and once y'all do, you cannot get the weir door inside the skimmer (there is a "peg" attached on top of the skimmer I assume that is designed to go along the door inside the skimmer; therefore I cannot become the door outside to become within!?!). If I try to attach the weir door by going within the skimmer and try to attach to the pins outside, you cannot connect them!

I apologize if stupid, but is there a way to do this that I cannot figure out? Or do I need to get whole new skimmers put in that have the weir doors in place?

Thx anyone!!

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The door usually goes thru the opening in the deck and then into place. Usually y'all can't fit it thru the pool side opening. In that location is a tab on the within of the skimmer to prevent the door from flapping out into the pool.

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That may be one of the ones where you have to remove the whole hinge plate, typically screws along the bottom accessed from within the skimmer, mount the new weir to the hinge plate and then reinstall the assembly into the skimmer.

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A photo is worth a thousand words.... a few photos might assist us help you. I recently replaced skimmers for my A&S installed Hayward skimmers. I couldn't find a weir that would fit, so I altered a universal weir that stays in identify via a jump loaded pin. I cut the oversized weir using a hack saw and trimmed the leap on the spring loaded pin. I'm a middle-aged female with few tools and it took me 15 minutes. I paid pool shop prices for the weir (nearly $15).

No screws and didn't thing if anything on the skimmer throat was damaged. I had to take off my skimmer collar to become mine to fit through the skimmer opening.

This is similar to what I used:
http://world wide web.inyopools.com/Products/07501352028778.htm#description

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That may be 1 of the ones where you have to remove the whole hinge plate, typically screws along the bottom accessed from within the skimmer, mount the new weir to the swivel plate and then reinstall the assembly into the skimmer.

This seems similar its the simply way if possible. ,This model has the sometime permanent pins in the "hinge plate". For this model skimmer would I be able to become instructions on how to do this?

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I may have to ultimately endeavor something like this; even so, I was told by the puddle store that the spring loaded ones wouldn't hold considering there is no place for the springs to go -- make sense? This quondam skimmer model has permanent pins in place...

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The door ordinarily goes thru the opening in the deck and so into place. Normally you can't fit it thru the pool side opening. There is a tab on the inside of the skimmer to foreclose the door from flapping out into the pool.

Correct, which is why I cannot figure out how to put in. What you called a "tab" I had called a "peg" -- no way to get door past it!

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Anyone have thoughts about replacing the swivel plate equally an option? Am I missing something obvious?

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OK..spent some fourth dimension on this, including with Hayward on the phone...I have a skimmer with permanently mounted "pins" on the skimmer walls. I t appears in that location is no fashion to maneuver the door into place nether this one-time setup. Hayward is checking around and supposed to call me back, but what is interesting, one of the pins has broken off and in that location is a fiddling "hole" where the pins is. Perhaps a spring loaded replacement door would work IF I break off the other "pin" and at that place is a similar hole there? Anyone know what I am talking most and tin can comment?

Lastly, a pool repair guy said to put in a floating weir/basket into the existing skimmer basket area and forget the doors! Anyone familiar with this set and whether information technology works?

I am amazed that something every bit elementary as a weir door is and then difficult to "gear up" -- delight aid if you tin!!

Thx...

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Update!! And hope this helps others!

I ultimately plant out that my skimmer is a Pentair S20 Admiral with the weir doors fastened to permanently mounted pins in the side walls. There is no way to properly put a replacement weir door into that design; still the A&S pool guy who gave me the skimmer info from my 1999 records, said try to put the door in backwards and although not perfect it will piece of work for the most function. Did that (duh!!) and information technology worked! Unfortunately, someone knocked off one of the permanent mounting pins on the other skimmer and so am going to try a circular floating weir design in that skimmer. I will then see which works best and go from there...whew!!

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Update!! And hope this helps others!

I ultimately found out that my skimmer is a Pentair S20 Admiral with the weir doors attached to permanently mounted pins in the side walls. There is no way to properly put a replacement weir door into that design; even so the A&Southward pool guy who gave me the skimmer info from my 1999 records, said try to put the door in backwards and although not perfect it volition work for the well-nigh part. Did that (duh!!) and it worked! Unfortunately, someone knocked off one of the permanent mounting pins on the other skimmer so am going to effort a circular floating weir design in that skimmer. I will then come across which works best and become from at that place...whew!!

Hi.

I had the same exact issue. Information technology amazes me that they would design it so that information technology is impossible to properly put a new door on!

But I did take your advice and I put the door on backwards - I am amazed to see that information technology really works meliorate!
1) The current going into the skimmer is stronger because the door does not sit as flat
2) There is a lower gamble of the door flipping outwards past the pivot since the flat end hits the pin showtime instead of the curved end.

-Information technology almost makes me believe that whomever put the door on originally, might accept put it on backwards. I am thinking of breaking off the door of the other skimmer and putting in a replacement door in the backwards position!

Thanks once more!
Juggernaut

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Hi.

I had the same exact issue. It amazes me that they would design information technology and so that it is impossible to properly put a new door on!

But I did take your advice and I put the door on backwards - I am amazed to see that it really works improve!
1) The electric current going into the skimmer is stronger because the door does not sit down equally flat
ii) At that place is a lower risk of the door flipping outwards by the pin since the flat end hits the pivot first instead of the curved end.

-It nigh makes me believe that whomever put the door on originally, might have put it on backwards. I am thinking of breaking off the door of the other skimmer and putting in a replacement door in the backwards position!

Thank you again!
Juggernaut

Welcome!

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How does the mill get the door in? It seems like they would have the same problem.

By the way, you saved me tons of hassle. I'one thousand going to lodge the floating weir.

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Thank you to the OP for coming back to update this thread, and to the others who chimed in too! I had been searching for the right weir door for my skimmer since there wasn't ane when nosotros bought the house. Thanks to this post I was able to correctly identify my skimmer every bit the Pentair Admiral S20, with confirmation from the picture and parts diagram in the transmission which I found hither:
The door finally arrived yesterday, and it snapped into identify quite easily for me with the flat side facing out towards the pool. Now I have ordered the skimmer handbasket as well, as the former (probably wrong) one is starting to break apart.

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